Conversation with homeworknazism at 2005-10-16 22:34:35 on kanzure (aim)
(22:34:35) kanzure entered the room.
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(22:35:33) kanzure: hold
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(22:35:53) Katie Lea: uh...hi?
(22:35:57) kanzure: hold
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(22:36:06) Bill Gryta: hi
(22:36:10) Lauren Broddrick: hey guys
(22:36:14) Bill Gryta: now give me answers to biology
(22:36:17) kanzure: heh
(22:36:20) kanzure: pathetic
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(22:36:25) kanzure: anyway, where were we Lauren?
(22:36:31) kanzure: I was thinking we'd pick up from there and let them catch up later
(22:36:54) Bill Gryta: whos lucifer
(22:37:14) Lauren Broddrick: ok um we just finished light reactions so how bout PGA
(22:37:20) kanzure: PGA. Not the golf tour ?
(22:37:22) kanzure: just a second
(22:37:27) Lauren Broddrick: shut up
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(22:37:40) kanzure: Ok, so what's the first product of the Calvin Cycle?
(22:37:42) kanzure: anybody know?
(22:38:02) Lauren Broddrick: RuBisCo
(22:38:24) kanzure: eh
(22:38:26) kanzure: no
(22:38:28) Lauren Broddrick: or i guess nut
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(22:38:32) Lauren Broddrick: *not
(22:38:41) kanzure: let's go ask Wikipedia
(22:39:06) Bobby DuPont: so...who's got the answeres..
(22:39:15) kanzure:
The steps in the Calvin cycle are:
RubisCO reacts with CO2, creating a 3-carbon compound, PGA.
(22:39:20) kanzure: One ATP from the light reactions is used, producing an ADP and a Pi (inorganic phosphate).
An NADPH from the light reactions combines with an H+ and becomes NADP+.
(22:39:24) kanzure:
PGAL, a 3-carbon compound, is produced, which stores free energy.
(22:39:25) kanzure: Another ATP is consumed, yielding an ADP and a Pi.
RuBP is produced, which is a 5-carbon compound.
(22:39:30) kanzure: From that we can see that
(22:39:33) kanzure: the first compound that is created
(22:39:34) kanzure: is PGA
(22:39:36) kanzure: :)
(22:40:14) Bobby DuPont: is anyone here
(22:40:14) Bobby DuPont: ?
(22:40:16) kanzure: yes
(22:40:26) kanzure: I think Bobby has me blocked
(22:40:29) kanzure: and doesn't get my messages
(22:40:30) Bobby DuPont: no i havnt
(22:40:32) kanzure: somebody tell him to unblock me
(22:40:33) kanzure: ah
(22:40:36) Bobby DuPont: i have!!!
(22:40:44) Bobby DuPont: haha
(22:40:46) Bobby DuPont: nvm
(22:40:50) kanzure: eh ?
(22:41:13) Lauren Broddrick: wait i already related the Calvin Cycle to Anaerobic respiration
(22:41:31) kanzure: there's another option
(22:41:41) kanzure: Anearobic respiration we'll get to next then
(22:42:05) Lauren Broddrick: but then what should PGA be connected to?
(22:42:09) Bobby DuPont: yeah
(22:42:39) kanzure: what were those steps from ?
(22:42:47) kanzure: go look up there
(22:42:48) kanzure: I mention it
(22:43:39) kanzure: Ok, so for Anaerobic Respiration.. let's see
(22:44:05) kanzure: "Anaerobic respiration refers to the oxidation of molecules in the absence of oxygen to produce energy."
(22:44:20) Bill Gryta: whos rakamasah
(22:44:26) kanzure: Megan Hubby
(22:44:34) kanzure: On that same page which I got that quote from, I find
(22:44:37) kanzure: "Oxygen is not necessary for glycolysis to occur."
(22:44:43) kanzure: Glycolysis is another word on the vocab list
(22:45:06) kanzure: which
(22:45:15) kanzure: Glycolysis is a term referring to a series of biochemical reactions by which a molecule of glucose is oxidized to two molecules of pyruvic acid.
(22:45:18) Bill Gryta: yeah
(22:45:34) Bill Gryta: he told us that
(22:45:43) kanzure: we have people from two different classes here
(22:45:46) kanzure: give me a break
(22:46:15) kanzure: somebody invite Megan Andrews, my client doesn't seem to be functioning properly
(22:47:32) kanzure: so, unless there are other questions, I think we're done ??
(22:47:34) hobo gurl1122 entered the room.
(22:47:49) kanzure: hello, who's this?
(22:47:55) hobo gurl1122: i be meg
(22:48:03) kanzure: what happened to the other screenname ?
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(22:48:11) hobo gurl1122: idk...
(22:48:40) Megan Andrews: i was invited on this screen name
(22:48:55) Lauren Broddrick: by me
(22:48:56) kanzure: Yeah, my mistake. I only track you by the other
(22:49:14) Megan Andrews: oh ok
(22:49:21) Megan Andrews: so what are we doing
(22:49:30) kanzure: We were discussing the vocabulary, although
(22:49:35) kanzure: you interrupted the silence
(22:49:39) Megan Andrews: oh
(22:49:41) Megan Andrews: in that case
(22:49:44) Megan Andrews: AHHHHH!!
(22:49:53) kanzure: You do that.
(22:49:55) Lauren Broddrick: ok i have exer and enderthermic reactions, Pyruvic acid, PGA, RuBp, and Oxyloacetate left
(22:50:08) kanzure: Exer and ender? We don't even have those words
(22:50:09) kanzure: heh
(22:50:22) kanzure: (Exer and ender thermic, I mean)
(22:50:34) Megan Andrews: endo?
(22:50:41) kanzure: endothermic niether
(22:50:46) Megan Andrews: lol
(22:50:53) Megan Andrews: nevermind then
(22:50:56) Megan Andrews: i did that one
(22:51:01) kanzure: endergonic, perhaps
(22:51:04) Lauren Broddrick: gonic i was kidding
(22:51:10) kanzure: *endogonic
(22:51:11) Lauren Broddrick: testin yall
(22:51:30) Megan Andrews: sure ya were
(22:51:34) kanzure: Then tell us all the answers, because I'd be glad to go back to Galaga
(22:51:50) Bill Gryta: whos hobogurl
(22:51:56) kanzure: Bill, read your logs
(22:52:38) Megan Andrews: gosh bill i'm gurt
(22:52:41) Megan Andrews: *hurt
(22:52:43) Megan Andrews: it's meg
(22:53:16) kanzure: You guys have to be the most idling people ever. heh'
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(22:53:28) kanzure: There's at least a minute gap in messages. Horrible.
(22:53:37) Megan Andrews: well maybe we just type slow
(22:53:41) kanzure: Bah.
(22:53:47) Bobby DuPont: nope
(22:54:07) Bobby DuPont: why is my font so f'in big?
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(22:54:15) Megan Andrews: dear god there's a lot of words on this list
(22:54:17) kanzure: It's your client's settings.
(22:54:20) kanzure: haha
(22:54:26) kanzure: You're only now looking at it ?
(22:54:33) Megan Andrews: ....no of course not
(22:54:36) Bill Gryta: are you sure?
(22:54:40) Bill Gryta: mines ridiculously huge too
(22:54:41) Megan Andrews: hush bill
(22:54:46) kanzure: Why do you think I bothered to help people out? Because you're all slackers. That's why. I can profit from this. :P
(22:55:03) Megan Andrews: ur mean
(22:55:06) kanzure: "Your procrastination, my exploitation"
(22:55:09) kanzure: Yeah, but also helpful
(22:55:09) Lauren Broddrick: hey i have been workin on this all day
(22:55:12) kanzure: so it cancels everything out
(22:55:14) Bill Gryta: lol
(22:55:16) Bill Gryta: thats sad lauren
(22:55:19) kanzure: heh, Lauren's been at it for four hours
(22:55:19) Lauren Broddrick: i know
(22:55:24) Megan Andrews: wow
(22:55:27) Lauren Broddrick: :'(
(22:55:28) kanzure: how many? 8 words only?
(22:55:29) kanzure: pathetic
(22:55:31) kanzure: :)
(22:55:31) Bobby DuPont: haha
(22:55:32) Megan Andrews: i salute you lauren
(22:55:33) Lauren Broddrick: no 15
(22:55:36) kanzure: please
(22:55:48) Lauren Broddrick: pairs that is
(22:55:56) Megan Andrews: ur almost done!!!
(22:55:57) kanzure: Ah, so you have only a few more to go
(22:56:00) Lauren Broddrick: yes
(22:56:03) Megan Andrews: wow
(22:56:05) kanzure: Well that renders me completely useless in your case.
(22:56:11) Bobby DuPont: i've been lookin at it for 2 mintues...and i have only got "this sucks ass" written on my paper
(22:56:17) kanzure: heh
(22:56:19) Bill Gryta: well
(22:56:19) Megan Andrews: lol
(22:56:23) kanzure: perhaps it'd be more productive to ask questions
(22:56:25) Bill Gryta: that probably pairs with endergonic or something
(22:56:26) Bill Gryta: go for it
(22:56:33) Bobby DuPont: haha
(22:56:34) kanzure: discussing the sucking isn't helping much
(22:56:36) Lauren Broddrick: no because i cant compare the rest w
(22:56:48) kanzure: here's what I suggest,
(22:56:54) kanzure: a rapid case of "trial and error"
(22:56:59) Megan Andrews: well you can tell us the answers and we can nod as we write them down
(22:57:06) kanzure: smash words together with the briefest possible explanation,
(22:57:11) kanzure: and then reorder when you figure out you messed up
(22:57:15) Megan Andrews: that works
(22:57:19) kanzure: no, I do not give out answers really
(22:57:26) Bobby DuPont: so...
(22:57:27) kanzure: it helps me more when I discuss it through a series of questions a
(22:57:29) Megan Andrews: i was talking to lauren
(22:57:30) Bobby DuPont: whats the answer to
(22:57:33) kanzure: heh
(22:57:37) Bobby DuPont: oxygen?
(22:57:42) Bobby DuPont: i mean...
(22:57:45) kanzure: do you know the formula for Oxygen?
(22:57:49) Bobby DuPont: it's not really anyhting else
(22:57:49) Megan Andrews: we breathe it
(22:57:53) Bill Gryta: no actually
(22:57:54) Bobby DuPont: h2o
(22:57:55) Lauren Broddrick: water
(22:57:56) kanzure: no
(22:57:57) kanzure: that's water
(22:58:00) kanzure: Oxygen is O
(22:58:02) kanzure: you all FAIL
(22:58:03) Megan Andrews: lol
(22:58:03) Bill Gryta: do you mean oxygen or air
(22:58:05) Bobby DuPont: yeah....same difference
(22:58:06) Bill Gryta: i thought you meant air
(22:58:11) Bill Gryta: air is much different
(22:58:14) kanzure: Bill, oxygen is on the list
(22:58:18) kanzure: not air
(22:58:18) kanzure: anyway
(22:58:21) Bill Gryta: yeah
(22:58:27) kanzure: Water would be correct
(22:58:27) Bill Gryta: oxygen is just a biproduct though
(22:58:29) kanzure: but does anybody know why ?
(22:58:31) Bill Gryta: water pairs with sun
(22:58:33) kanzure: er
(22:58:36) Bill Gryta: i thought
(22:58:37) kanzure: Why do you say that, Bill ?
(22:58:39) Bobby DuPont: nooo
(22:58:44) Bobby DuPont: water doesnt pair with sun
(22:58:44) Bill Gryta: because sun and water are the two external sources needed
(22:58:46) Bill Gryta: well no
(22:58:48) Bill Gryta: damn you co2
(22:58:50) Bobby DuPont: no
(22:58:50) kanzure: heh
(22:58:52) kanzure: yep :)
(22:58:53) Bill Gryta: what pairs with sun
(22:58:57) Bobby DuPont: light and water are the raw materials
(22:58:58) kanzure: well,
(22:58:59) Bobby DuPont: not the sun
(22:59:01) kanzure: wait
(22:59:08) kanzure: What does the sun "produce " ?
(22:59:14) Megan Andrews: light?
(22:59:15) Bill Gryta: light water and CO2 are
(22:59:18) kanzure: light
(22:59:20) Bill Gryta: the materials
(22:59:20) kanzure: yes
(22:59:31) kanzure: So how does light play a role in photosynthesis?
(22:59:35) kanzure: Where is light first "received" ?
(22:59:36) Megan Andrews: it starts it
(22:59:41) Megan Andrews: on the plant
(22:59:48) kanzure: ok
(22:59:49) Bobby DuPont: energy..taht is turned into organic energy by the chlorophyl
(22:59:50) kanzure: a bit more specific
(22:59:52) kanzure: yes
(22:59:55) kanzure: bobby has it
(22:59:56) Bill Gryta: well bobby
(23:00:00) kanzure: chlorophyll
(23:00:02) Bill Gryta: you just summed up our whole unite in a sentence
(23:00:06) kanzure: :)
(23:00:10) Megan Andrews: lol
(23:00:11) kanzure: it'd be unit
(23:00:16) Bill Gryta: yeah
(23:00:18) kanzure: but unity is fine too
(23:00:19) Bill Gryta: i dunno why i threw the e in there
(23:00:24) kanzure: randome
(23:00:24) Bill Gryta: so is unite...which is what i said
(23:00:28) Bill Gryta: it makes it cooler
(23:00:31) kanzure: oh okay
(23:00:34) kanzure: maybe he'll accept that answer
(23:00:37) Bobby DuPont: maybe
(23:00:42) kanzure: "Sun and water because they're both cool like that."
(23:00:48) Bill Gryta: nah
(23:00:51) kanzure: heh
(23:00:51) Bill Gryta: thatll never work
(23:00:54) kanzure: you guys can try that
(23:00:58) Megan Andrews: i will
(23:00:59) kanzure: I'll stick with some actual reason
(23:01:08) Megan Andrews: i'm like failing anyways
(23:01:08) Bobby DuPont: throw some happy faces and stuck figures in with that and we might have something guys
(23:01:11) Bobby DuPont: stick*
(23:01:19) Bill Gryta: sun and water because theyre the two external resources needed for the light cycle
(23:01:20) kanzure: yeah, Ragsdale would laugh, like with his monkey-animations
(23:01:27) Bill Gryta: CO2 is needed only for calvin cycle
(23:01:27) Bobby DuPont: yeah
(23:01:29) kanzure: Bill, are you still on about this ?
(23:01:33) Bill Gryta: yeah
(23:01:40) Bobby DuPont: noo
(23:01:41) kanzure: We showed that the Sun is related to the chlorophyll
(23:01:43) Bill Gryta: sun and water because theyre the two external resources needed for the light cycle
(23:01:44) Bill Gryta: it works
(23:01:48) kanzure: yes it does
(23:01:49) kanzure: but
(23:01:49) Bill Gryta: CO2 doesnt come into play with the light cycle
(23:01:54) Bill Gryta: so ha
(23:01:55) kanzure: try doing that
(23:01:55) Bill Gryta: it works
(23:01:57) kanzure: and then doing the others
(23:01:59) Bill Gryta: no
(23:02:00) Bill Gryta: never
(23:02:01) kanzure: where would you link chlorophyll then ?
(23:02:02) kanzure: ;)
(23:02:08) Bill Gryta: cholorophyll goes with......
(23:02:11) kanzure: *cough*
(23:02:14) kanzure: good job. Great planning.
(23:02:16) Bill Gryta: i dunno i dont have a word bank
(23:02:19) Bill Gryta: someone send me a word bank
(23:02:19) kanzure: eh
(23:02:21) kanzure: just a second
(23:02:35) kanzure: Kinetic Energy ATP Potential Energy water
(23:02:36) Bobby DuPont: there are so many lines on my paper i dont know what is what
(23:02:41) kanzure: autotrophs chlorophyll sun producer consumer herbivore carnivore omnivore glucose granum stroma light reactions calvin cycle
(23:02:45) kanzure: photosystem II aerobic respiration anaerobic respiration oxygen
(23:02:47) kanzure: glycosis NADP citric acid cycle RubP PGAL pyruvic acid oxidation exergonic endergonic PGA NAD Oxyloacetate photosystme I ETC
(23:02:53) kanzure: excuse the typos and lack of commas
(23:03:08) Bill Gryta: photosystem II goes with calvin cycle right
(23:03:12) kanzure: no
(23:03:17) Bill Gryta: what the hell does it go with then
(23:03:18) kanzure: Photosystem 1 & 2 go to the same thing
(23:03:19) Bill Gryta: why
(23:03:22) Bill Gryta: thats retarded
(23:03:24) kanzure: because there is an odd number
(23:03:24) Bobby DuPont: no
(23:03:25) kanzure: yeah I know
(23:03:30) Bobby DuPont: wait
(23:03:32) Bobby DuPont: that's greay
(23:03:34) kanzure: there's an odd number of words
(23:03:37) Bobby DuPont: great*
(23:03:44) kanzure: Photosystem 1 and 2 link with something
(23:03:46) kanzure: not to each other
(23:03:47) Bill Gryta: photosystem II is used with calvin cycle, I is used with light cycle
(23:03:52) kanzure: no
(23:03:59) Bill Gryta: CONFUSED
(23:04:00) Bobby DuPont: no...they are used together
(23:04:02) Megan Hubby: my brain is dead i am leaving and will do this later i be up late anyway be back later if any of u will be on
(23:04:02) kanzure: Photosystem 1 is where the lower wave lenghts are absorbed
(23:04:03) Bill Gryta: he didnt teach us most of this did he
(23:04:08) Bill Gryta: yeah
(23:04:10) kanzure: the second Photosystem is where the longer wavelengths are
(23:04:17) kanzure: but do you know what context this is in?
(23:04:18) Bill Gryta: uhh
(23:04:20) Bill Gryta: lower=longer
(23:04:24) kanzure: uhhh
(23:04:26) kanzure: screw that
(23:04:27) Bill Gryta: lol
(23:04:34) kanzure: Photosystem 1 = smaller wave lenghts
(23:04:40) kanzure: *lenghts
(23:04:44) Bobby DuPont: waht the hell does wavle lengths have to do with it
(23:04:45) Bill Gryta: photosystem 1 is red orange and yellow right
(23:04:52) Bobby DuPont: they are both doin the energy
(23:04:53) Bobby DuPont: thing
(23:04:54) kanzure: Bobby: Do you know what the electro magnetic spectrum is ?
(23:04:57) hobo gurl1122 left the room.
(23:04:58) Bobby DuPont: yes
(23:04:59) kanzure: *electromagnetic
(23:05:00) kanzure: right
(23:05:02) Bill Gryta: because one photsystem uses all the visible light waves on one side of green light
(23:05:04) Bill Gryta: and one uses the other
(23:05:05) kanzure: it's a collection of wave lengths
(23:05:08) kanzure: it's light, for example
(23:05:12) kanzure: such as the visible spectrum
(23:05:13) Bill Gryta: from blue-violet and from red-yellow
(23:05:18) Bobby DuPont: right..but it doesnt matter becasue there sint anyhting to apply that to on the paper
(23:05:22) kanzure: infrared, x-rays ,gamma-rays
(23:05:25) kanzure: yes there is :)
(23:05:32) kanzure: What happens in the Photosystems ?
(23:05:32) Bobby DuPont: light reactiong
(23:05:34) kanzure: yes
(23:05:38) Bill Gryta: photosystem 1 and 2 is how plants split up all the light rays they recieve
(23:05:48) Bill Gryta: with the exception of green, because thats reflected
(23:05:48) kanzure: right, and they do something (which Bobby got right to)
(23:05:53) Bobby DuPont: right...but you can put those two together and say they are in both in plants and end it
(23:06:02) Bill Gryta: yeah
(23:06:05) Bobby DuPont: so why go deeper?
(23:06:06) Bill Gryta: thers alot of wayst o make this easy
(23:06:06) Bill Gryta: lol
(23:06:07) kanzure: what? no. stick with "1&2 go to light reactions"
(23:06:10) Bill Gryta: me for example
(23:06:15) Bill Gryta: i dont do it at all
(23:06:18) Bobby DuPont: what?
(23:06:19) Bill Gryta: i havent opened my backpack yet
(23:06:20) kanzure: there are probably many different ways to do it
(23:06:26) Bill Gryta: and now im going to bed
(23:06:31) Bobby DuPont: nice
(23:06:32) kanzure: hm
(23:06:36) kanzure: I should probably try that
(23:06:37) kanzure: sleep thing
(23:06:42) Bobby DuPont: yeah
(23:06:45) Bobby DuPont: i slept all day
(23:06:49) kanzure: bah
(23:06:52) kanzure: I saw a crappy movie
(23:06:53) Bill Gryta: i recorded all day
(23:06:55) Bill Gryta: what movie?
(23:07:01) kanzure: I do not like my science fiction mixed with poetry and psyotherapy
(23:07:03) kanzure: Serenity :-/
(23:07:04) Bobby DuPont: and i think im goin to get some more tomroow in ragsdale's
(23:07:10) Bill Gryta: someone said that was good
(23:07:13) kanzure: bah
(23:07:14) kanzure: load of crap
(23:07:16) Bill Gryta: lol
(23:07:22) Bill Gryta: well
(23:07:23) Bobby DuPont: mm
(23:07:23) kanzure: "Oh no, I'm not a Harrison Ford clone! Of course not!"
(23:07:24) Bill Gryta: thats what you get
(23:07:32) Bill Gryta: you saw the science fiction and was expecting a logical movie
(23:07:36) Bill Gryta: look what you got yourself into
(23:07:37) Bobby DuPont: noo
(23:07:39) kanzure: religious crap
(23:07:40) kanzure: :(
(23:07:48) kanzure: err, I forgot I'm in a public room
(23:07:48) kanzure: heh'
(23:07:49) Bobby DuPont: cience is all a load of crap
(23:07:54) kanzure: ...
(23:08:04) Bill Gryta: but you can prove is a load of crap
(23:08:15) Bill Gryta: religion is up for grabs
(23:08:18) kanzure: heh
(23:08:22) Bobby DuPont: ha
(23:08:23) Lauren Broddrick: *places gun in mouth*
(23:08:26) Bill Gryta: for anyone to think what they want
(23:08:33) kanzure: Bill, let's save the religious debates for you and me
(23:08:35) Bobby DuPont: *pull it pull it*
(23:08:39) kanzure: or people who actually care
(23:08:46) Bill Gryta: *puts gun deeper in laurens mouth*
(23:08:49) kanzure: heh
(23:08:53) Lauren Broddrick: shut up
(23:09:03) Bill Gryta: *realizes its a watergun*
(23:09:06) kanzure: ...
(23:09:08) Bill Gryta: *starts drowning lauren*
(23:09:10) kanzure: don't squirt
(23:09:12) kanzure: ...
(23:09:23) Bill Gryta: it beats the hell out of homework
(23:09:26) kanzure: beat
(23:09:28) kanzure: heh
(23:09:28) hobo gurl1122 entered the room.
(23:09:44) Bobby DuPont: yeah...i think i would rather drown than go back to school too
(23:09:52) kanzure: Well, you need to do the work
(23:09:56) kanzure: if you need to maintain the grades
(23:10:00) Megan Andrews: wait what did i miss
(23:10:01) kanzure: and the competence in the subjects
(23:10:05) kanzure: Meg, read your logs
(23:10:06) kanzure: :-p
(23:10:12) Megan Andrews: i can't it signed me out
(23:10:15) kanzure: ah
(23:10:17) kanzure: I'll upload the logs
(23:10:19) kanzure: to the website
(23:10:20) kanzure: hold on
(23:10:21) Megan Andrews: k