[Hplusroadmap] Fwd: Re: Transhumans - "We're fruity and delicious"

[Bryan Bishop]

On Friday 16 May 2008, Antonio Marcos wrote:
> >So, the first issue re: whether or not it is antisocial. I think
> > there is a point at which it's time to call it quits and just
> > frankly say "you people are hurting us". Kind of like growing up
> > and leaving home.
>
> Yes. I already do this quite often by the way :) the problem is, what
> if they start to see they're f***** and start getting emotional, like
> with weapons :) It seems the openvirgle (did i spell it right?) seems
> quite open indeed, so that might not be a problem..

Right, that's one of the basic ideas of OpenVirgle. When I first joined 
up in the OpenVirgle mailing list, I didn't quite know what was going 
on, but basically Paul Fernhout was working on a project very similar 
to SKDB called OSCOMAK, the OSCOMAK Semantic Community on Manufactured 
Artifacts and Know-how, so I hung out around there and it turns out 
they are planning on making some spacepods / space habitats, starting 
with some simulations. Actually, we're now starting with some 
do-it-yourself projects, but that doesn't change much. One of the 
interesting ideas is attaching the spacepod on top of a design for a 
clanking replicator, a type of self-replicating machine -- think von 
Neumann, Freitas, Drexler, Merkle, or the whole of biology itself. Now 
the majority of the remaining problems are more or less easy to 
solve -- the programming for the database's overall structure, and then 
socially bootstrapping the whole beast, which means getting some 
funding to start manufacturing the manufacturing equipment, querying 
for knowledge across many domains in the civilization, etc. Lots of the 
information is hidden and so on [due to scarcity-centric "my patent, 
mine!"think]. Hrm. Reminds me to go write the philanthropic gatewaying 
essay I've been meaning to jot out. </me will get back to this 
later :)>

> >As for who gets to be in your 'cubicle'. How about the situation
> > where you have a certain 'air purity' and you know that you aren't
> > infected
>
> Hmm I thought we were discussing morals here.. which is far harder to
> detect the lack of..

Oh, morals. I see. Getting a little abstract here, but, it's all signals 
in the end anyway - whether it's matter or energy in the signal doesn't 
really matter. Fundamentally, noise is still a topic to discuss when 
you mention signals, so whether the noise is due to morals (processes 
within a brain, among other things) or due to otherwise harmful 
signals, like a matter-thing (bug, or a poison), there's still times 
that you want to get away from it. :)

- Bryan
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