Talk:Meat on a stick

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2008-03-10: fenn pointed out that there may be some immune system problems with this idea. You can burn grass to get rid of potentially harmful viruses and bacteria (perhaps), but what about the interface from the outside world into the chamber with the meats? There would have to be an active immune system plus a way to kill infected tissues so that an infection does not spread. It would be convenient if the entire immune system of a cow would be in its stomach, based on the local bacteria, this way the stomach bacteria could be used to process the incoming grass as input for the vat grown meat. Stem cells can be kept in super-safe compartments and only rarely taken out to get a replicated portion (and when they are exposed to a greater environment, it should be one that we take the utmost care to maintain and purify etc.). -- Kanzure 10:55, 11 March 2008 (CDT)

2008-03-13

2008-03-13 -- Kanzure 10:46, 13 March 2008 (CDT): I just sent out this message to fenn, a guy working on Buckminster Fuller's tensegrity geometries for self-replicators that he is making out of CNC machines ... he was worrying about my 'meat on a stick' idea and immunity -- So I put some thought into the immune system problems that you mentioned. We can leverage against immune system problems by constantly building up a supply of food in reserves -- frozen meat -- such that we always have enough to combat an infection of the current growing meat supply. Problematically, if you contain the pathogens on your body, then you will be transfering the pathogens no matter where you go ... so what I have been thinkng is that there will be a "tiered" pressurized environment. We would maintain specialized sources of food that have direct access to the pure elements and to fabricate food from scratch on their own. Then, they also produce some vesicles and vehicles for transfering the food to other people. These vehicles transfer the 'pure food' (as pure as it is ... it will only be as pure as the original environment that the 'main node' started at, in the first place). And once the food is exposed to your 'tier', it's at that "contamination level" and should never, ever go higher. The 'main node' should not be based off of 'social status' at all (that would be **bad**) -- but rather, everybody should have their own relative 'tier levels' based off of what they know of their friends and so on (and if they are in the same atmosphere, they automatically are at the same level as each other). It should be ad-hoc.